It was a definite case of the insane running the asylum. I remember my stay thers like it was yestetday. We were lucky to have cool ,and chill family fathers that would let us do whatever, as long as we were not to loud and no one found out, Hey Travis this is Mathew Patterson from respect I was there in 1999 to 2000 and went home at Christmas. I dont know if anyone still checks this site but if so, please let me know if you were in Charity in 2005. Remarks: This Montana property borders BLM land and a large ranch with a small spring creek tu. So glad to see your all still alive. Finally I somehow stuffed my shit together in the pack and finally they helped me after my pack fell apart because I packed it one handed. That Im too old to go, but still end up there. At the same time Ive seen some kids get body slammed to the ground when they were showing agression in intervention. This is what goes through my mind. Loved many of them. READ REDFIN'S FAIR HOUSING POLICY. NOBODY INTERVEINED AND SHE JUST SHARED SOME VERY SERIOUS SHIT. No one gets what happened at SCL. Maybe he figures were too f-ing stupid to look into the people we hope to glean some advice and guidance from. We shared rumors and strategies to get out. I was rebellious, purposefully non-compliant. He was one of the good ones in the jr. Staff. McCoy Spring Creek Ranch | Montana Land for Sale SOLD McCoy Spring Creek Ranch 1210 ACRES Dillon IN Beaverhead COUNTY MONTANA Listing Price: $10,500,000 < > MOST RECENT STATUS UPDATE Sold November 15, 2012 Property Updated January 5, 2021 Details Free Subscribers Sign up for Free Access Market Experts Become a Market Expert Map Holy shit, its Brandy! Those of us that spent time in Wisdom, Courage, Unity, legend, serenity, eternity etc. Once you feel detached enough to fight the bastards and spread your own testimony of their treachery, do so. Spent almost every day I was there in the hobbit. From Wisconsin? Ill never forget Zach. He was assigned to be my shadow and he had been there for 13 months or something and was almost out of there but he was still the same person that arrived there just faking it to get out of there. Live well and prosper when you finish your stint. Its your own doing! Kids as young as 12 were at this school and they got no exceptions. While I know there are a lot of bad memories from that time in our lives I also met some amazing people and I would love to find out where life has taken you. My name is Trent, I was in Excel with Henry, Brad, Matt, Bill, Jesse, Scott, Jason and a whole bunch of other little fuckers that were honestly mostly pretty funny kids. I was driving my work truck back West to Clarkfork, ID from Heron, MT along the frontage road. Montana Farms and Ranches for Sale - 256 Listings | LandWatch In 1996, he moved to Montana to open Spring Creek Lodge along with his twin brother Cameron Pullan and Robert Lichfields brother-in-law, Dan Peart. I just found this website and thankful for it. Seeing as how we were not allowed to exchange personal contact information during our time there. I never believed the kids were bad. Theyd even use former Tranquility Bay students to put on the phone where we were made to talk other parents into agreeing to transfer their kids thereinto a far worse program than they were already in. Yeah they kinda encouraged that in our special cases didnt they. I was ghost. I am gonna write him sometime this week also. The more eyes on this the more this facility will have a spotlight on them. a sense of belonging somewhere, a warm home. So on a trip up to the hobbit one time i ran into a girls hobbit and kissed this cute little blond girl. I hope everyone whos had to go through staying here is okay. Omg Ian and Jennifer, I totally remember you guys (and maybe others)! I stole a sharp kitchen knife for protection. Their website recommended that parents watch the movie Thirteen to understand what horrible things their teenagers are doing. This corner of Montana is limitless when it comes to outdoor recreation, and the Beaverhead valley is home to some of the best waterfowl hunting in the state. im no saint by any standards, but the hell that was spring creek definitely left its dark mark on my soul. The creek ranges from 30 to 100 feet wide and has a wide variety of trout habitat including riffles, deep runs, glassy flats and a spring fed pond. I get out calmly and walk to the back of the truck. I made it up to level 4 jr staff. I couldnt get my grandparents to believe any of this was happening but there is now proof. Then your going to get back to dick to butt and walk heel toe back to your family dorm to sit kuymbya in a circle with your family father and family counselor to read some shit you learned from the day before. Rem me? So many names seem familiar now but long forgotten since 1997. Yeah you must be a staff member hahahahaha. I remember when Cameron let me babysit his kids and how much trust he had in me. I was 14. He would catch flying bugs from the air and eat them for his protein. I am sure since our moms hit it off and we kept in contact for a while after getting out. That was weird. . You did a good job describing what went on. Or Find Me, Pull Up a Chair, Stand on It, and Let Me Rip You Up a Little! I dont remember if we were denied pads/tampons or if we were only rationed a certain number? They talked about getting a translator. I hate it here, its like a Jail Im scared, I want my mother The counselor lady quickly looks at me and loudly exclaims its not a jail, its a boarding school. Clearview Girls Academy, Heron Montana. Wow ok, I felt that was a little strong and forcefully unneeded information. YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! He fought up until the end, kept his sense of humor throughouteven when he needed a double lung transplant. Hi Susan Lambert, They could have structured a program that actually helped the majority of the kids there Instead they were a cash grab desensitized werdio group of muppeteers that used some weird ass point/level system off of bizarre seminars for days on end where you had to do shit that if you walked up to anyone in there right mind would tell you youre nuts if you participate in something like that. I saw level sevens crushed because they lost all their points for a trivial reason. It was over. Was Doug the little guy that was always in the hobbit? Cleveland National Forest - Wikipedia Buy the way I live in Florida. Enjoy the best spring creek fishing in SW Montana! The bridge is just west of Noxon and takes the tracks to the north side of the river. I have bad memories and that place took a lot of my good qualities and I didnt leave with them. Some kids that I knew stayed for years. I spent twenty seven and a half months there. On my survival our only girl Amanda wrecked her knee, like day 1 in Flagstaff so they shipped her out and apparently she stayed at he upper/main/school campus This is enough for me for now. I remember not getting propper shoes or even my shoe laces during winter cause of a prior wilderness program i was in they claimed i could run n survive in the woods. Take care. I was also afraid of having to celebrate my sixteenth birthday there, of finishing high school in another state, of having nothing when I finally got out. Stocked Trout pond right out the door with large trout ready to take your f1y! he would just gripe and gripe and poor me and SHUT THE FUCK UP! Sadly there were some parents that used that program because they wanted to ignore their kids or just use the place as an expensive babysitting.. We went to Discovery in Seattle and stayed on board with the staff. SCL wasclosed in 2009 after a dramatic drop in enrollment and a failed attempt to convert part of the facility into an 18+ program called Camas Ranch. They are arguing then the girl brakes free, runs and jumps onto the back of my truck as I slowly speed up. Montana Fly Fishing Trip | Guides and Lodging | Nelson's Guides & Flies But I think it did more harm. From Morava to Spring Creek both were awful ! Energy suck, emotional suck, attention suck! This place was hell. 2015 O'Hair Ranch / Armstrong Spring Creek, Quality Spring Creek fishing in Paradise Valley, Livingston, Montana for over 60 years, 2015 O'Hair Ranch / Armstrong Spring Creek. Thank God!! Did I enjoy being there, no. I was in Charity. I was in Spring Creek from 2001-2004 was the only person I am aware of to be kicked out of PC3, as a level 6- for being honest about my home contract. I was in Spring Creek Community. We went through another long blur of trekking through the mountains. I have been forced to stay at Spring Creek Lodge for three years. Alex. Lol. I was here in 2002-03. I was there from 2001-2003. Was anyone there at the time ? I stumbled upon this page while looking for a way to get my transcripts I even found a post my mother Julie made in 2013. You Tom, sound like a prick. What is this facility? Gabe, wow man. Murdoch and wife, Jerry Murdoch, bought the 340,000-acre working Montana ranch from Matador Cattle Co., a subsidiary of Koch . Hopefully hell continue doing what hes been doing for the last ten years flying around the world on blood money and watching his emanciated baby factory of a wife try to run marathons til she falls over dead. I like Cyndi Lauper Time after time makes me think of good times, but still cant pass true colors on the radio without thinking of seminars and Cat 2s. I refused the doctor and they called my mom and said I had to go to wilderness or I was going to need to be picked back up. During our P.E. This ranch is defined by its creeks and water features, boasting over 3 miles of improved, well-managed spring creeks with ponds and sloughs. Our lodge offers rooms at the main lodge and separate cabins for a more private and rustic experience. Kids were beat as punishment, chased down when they ran and forced to sleep outside on the ground no matter the weather, homeschooled for the sole reason that the teachers didnt think they deserved to even talk to other kids seeing as even during the classes at the home if any of the boys were caught talking the had to get on the ground and do push-ups until the class was over and if they fell or stopped they were given chores which usually consisted of cleaning the vehicles of the teachers, taking care of the home-owners animals or even making a dinner that they then had to sit out on. Lol fuck that place! They kicked my brother out because he refused to participate in any of that whacked out shit lol So on top of the seminars you had monogenesis daily wake up bell 5 minute shit shower and shave for 20 bunks if they didnt shower the night before get ready line up dick to butt in silence. The real world never has felt normal since. I wouldnt wish that place upon my enemym Chaffin eventually had enough of me and so did every one else i guess and tried to make my mom send me to Jamaica where they had no child labor laws but my mom just brought me home instead.. Made up a home contract followed it for 2 weeks once i got home at the age of 15 and of course got bored and went out to find older kids.. I hate it even exists. Lorikinder24@gmail.com. My parents spent over $100,000 to keep me at Scl when they never even went to visit the place to begin with. Beaverhead Ranch is home to 7,000 cow-calf pairs and 15 families who are employed on the ranch. I was there from fall of 01-March of 02. I understand that being given level 5 may have seemed like such a dope reward for hardly having to work for it but looking back on it now I just think what a joke the whole moving up thing was. I was there 2002-2003. My upper level family was Inspiration with Miss Amy. Take a look. But I made it out alive. The padded rooms etc was just so crazy. It was a nightmare, but wear your survival with pride. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=26248390; Had a staff member showing videos of himself having sex.. Some folks can smile and make you laugh and make you forget youre in tremendous pain, that is a rare gift indeed and will be missed. I think I met you in a seminar where they made us stick stickers on boys and made us think about all the times the opposite sex screwed us over? I kept my mouth shut and the next night they were gone. I was sent away because I was a less than desirable child to have in your home. I spoke to the girl. Chelsey what time were you at Spring Creek I was in Serenity also. I saw kids slit there wrists, abused by staff, and bullied by many. LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I was only 15. As a staff member I was discouraged by the facility to form friendships with the girls. I was switch after maybe 1 day, if my memory serves me correct to Dignity. I have heard too many rumors of people killing themselves after leaving. i just wanted it to be private at the time. I was Jakes closest friend there and I tried to convince him not to run because I knew he wouldnt make it we all felt the same about busting out of there. At its peak it housed over 500 students. All the buildings are still there. I was in Spring Creek Lodge from 2002 to 2003. This provides a lot of shade for the campground. Colton Stoneman. Think again. This is the shit that bugged me out about this place you had kids trying to be super cops to other kids. That was the worst year of my life. Life is good. thanks for your help. These technical fisheries originate from underground aquifers and flow cold and clear year round. I remember running after at least 3 Runners, pssssh I didnt care if they got away, 99% of us were in it for the dinner in town as a thank you. Armstrong Spring Creek Cabin on the Creek All the brainwashed nitwits tattling on family moms who broke the rules and were just trying to make our time a little more pleasurable. I will make it to California within the next 2 days. I got my nickname because after failing out of my first seminar on the first day I gave up on the ridiculous program. My friend Jennifer and I decided we would find out. The Counselors who had no degrees were simply misfits from society who had no where else to go, One of tre counselors had gone through the program himself and was offered a job with no degree. it was so cool that so many people participated, even though im sure you all got in trouble :]]. I was there in 2004 in eternity family. Id love to find more of you and preferably more optimistic but I fully understand if bad experiences happened. Yep, the essay pitI remember the Huck Finnand there was Call of the Wild by Jack London too. All mineral and water rights owned by the seller will convey with purchase. The ranch currently enjoys a valid Montana Bird Preserve license and stocks 200-400 pheasants per year. One activity was the lifeboat and you had to go tell all your fellow prisoners if they lived or died. We got a ways up the mountain but we both gassed out and they caught up to us. I was there in 97/98 in the legend family and it also screwed my life up. So I began to wkrk my way out. One of the lady guides finally sighed ,For goodness sake! I was admitted in to University because of her hard, fast work. Spring Creek Elk Ranch. So many memories of that shit hole I could go on for hours if not days. Erics story, 1997 (john H, Myles, Eugene..etc) what a trip ANd all of your stories are hauntingly familiar.times and memories i had locked up deep down to forget about i mean what good did gravel pit do? How weird I was.. just trying to never go back I did it all. Forgot his name but one dude was sleeping with a female staff member and everyone in the offsite house had their PC3 pushed back 2 months with black cloud cause they didnt rat him out. Flip Flops and made it over 10 miles. Its been 13 years, I am not mad, its was just a chapter of my life, i am Instrument of God with a loving spirit . Excel was next door to you guys. I found your site after reading a cautionary review on Amazon.com of Teen Whisperer by Mike Linderman. The 3 day seminars way in the back of the woods is something that i will never forget. I turned 18 and had my graduation ceremony at the lodge. PERIOD. Memories of my bunk mate losing his fucking mind and trying to kill himself. Leonard Spring Creek is located on a private ranch near Twin Bridges, MT. Dont get me started with special needs. I just wanted to survive and not stand out. Sounds like I never got my resolution from being in this place. Shit man. EUREKA, KANSAS The Spring Creek Ranch is home to a proud family of cattle ranchers that have worked the land for more than a century. He was one of my best friends! What the hell is going on here??? If you are looking to reconnect, please join our facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/groups/wwaspsurvivors We have quite a few SCL survivors there , Hey, wasnt there in 2003. I agree I have no bad memories. email Judy O'Hair Attn to all kids that were there after 2000YOU HAD IT EASY!! I remember some of the cabin names.Blue SkyTetonGreen-something? After choosing out of PC3- I was pulled four months later (age 15-almost 16). I was in and out of worksheets/intervention from walking opposite direction as my (courage)family group on purpose to always keep the staff on their toes I guess you cn say I have a problem walking a straight line with others? but i think i might remember some of you that commented.. Hey my name is Katie I was in charity in 2004 and 2005 i started a small uprising with some other girls from worksheets. Each cabin was divided into four dormitories. And anger issues?! I was not going home. Luckily tho, my parents found out about the school from the parents of my brother in law who was still enlrolled. The whole experience shook me. Dont even get me started on the seminars. Whats up everyone. The Ranch at Rock Creek offers year-round unique vacations on an authentic 19th-century homestead. The things that happened to me cause of these schools I cant even word. Finally one day when I had my scheduled call, my mother asked , Are they listening to you talk. and I said , Yes . It was 1996. John the one i remember was a cool guy, he was the one that talked to me when i got there. I work for the railroad and happened to be in Heron Montana working this last week. You know it doesnt make you Look Smart, right? Spring Creek Inn - The Big Freeze Festival KOCH Newsroom | Their Home on the Range Jay Im glad that place worked out for you. Shes a good kid but lies a LOT and hasnt made passing grades for years, so we are trying help her make better choices for herself and improve her situation, opening doors for her future. As a parent, your voice carries weight in the fight against these evil people. For those who proclaim The Chick-fil-A App is not presently accepted at Chick-fil-A Express and Chick-fil-A licensed locations such as those in airports and college campuses.